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Long before he won the National Book Award, Martín Espada worked after school in a factory making legal pads. Espada, retired U.S. Supreme Court Justice Stephen Breyer, economists Natasha Sarin, Betsey Stevenson, and Justin Wolfers, historian Jill Lepore, and actor John Turturro join Elisa New to reflect on social mobility, and what connects manual labor with the raw materials of poetry and law.

In this episode, we welcome guests:

Stephen Breyer, Retired U.S. Supreme Court Justice
Martín Espada, Poet
Jill Lepore, Historian
Natasha Sarin, Economist
Betsey Stevenson, Economist
John Turturro, Actor
Justin Wolfers, Economist

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